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  • oldbaptist 6:40 am on January 13, 2012 Permalink | Reply  

    Repent 

    2 Chronicles 7:14

    If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

    This verse is rich.  Many times it seems as if we, including myself, look at things and point out all the bad things that are going on.  Politics today are as corrupt as they have ever been and I don’t know who to trust or believe.  I look at it and say surely I could do better or any one would be better than what we have. 

    Let us consider the verse above.  First I want to point out who it is talking to.  I think this is always important to consider when we read something.  Is it talking to me or someone else?  Here it is clearly talking to his people.  Those that go by his name, those that He chose before the foundation of the earth, those that have faith in him, those that feel themselves in need of a Saviour, that is who He is talking to.  Is that you?  I don’t know but I think the only person that each individual can apply this verse to is to is themselves.  If you feel like YOU fall under the afore-mentioned category then lets move to the next section. 

    If I will humble myself.  Humble is an amazing word.  What does it take to humble ourselves.  To be humble is marked by meekness and modesty, it means to see ourselves as less than something else.  This is saying that we need to realize that God is ALMIGHTY God!  We shouldn’t claim things or powers as our own that have been given to us as gifts.  The same person that has blessed this country for so many years, (GOD), has the ability to take those blessings away.  Read Romans 13:1-5, it tells us our rulers are ministers of God.  Romans 13:4 But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid: for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.  I bring this up because, we live in a nation of freedom.  We vote in our rulers so we naturally think that they are under us.  I seem to always want to look at what is going on and blame it on the rulers when the Bible clearly tells us that it is our own fault.  To truly humble ourselves we need to quit trying to place the blame on others and take it upon ourselves and say this is what my actions are bringing upon me. 

    Then it tells us what to do next.  It says to pray and seek my face.  What does it mean to seek my face.  I desire that there be a healing in  the land, but am I willing to give up the things necessary in order to see his face here in this land.  We as Americans are so blessed that we allow our blessings to be a god, or idle to us.  Christmas time to me is the perfect example of this, if we look at what Christmas is, in action, not words, then we would see that we are laying gifts down to a tree so that we get things that our flesh desire.  We are teaching our kids that when it comes to “CHRISTmas” as so many want to call it that it is all about kids getting what they want.  The premise was to help those in need, I’m sorry to say that we are at a point in time that we, Americans, want way more than we need.  Yes I’m sorry that things is what we want, why do we import way more than we export, because we want everything that everyone else has.  Sounds like coveting to me.  So the way that Christmas has become is that it is okay to covet.  I don’t like it.  Are we willing to give up things that our flesh desire in order to see HIS face.  Are we willing to give up ourselves in order to bow down to HIM and worship HIM.  It is a hard saying, but if we are unwilling to do it now I believe with all my heart that we are in for some chastisement.  But if we do these things I believe that he will keep that which He has promised and He will heal our land. 

    Lets all quit trying to place blame on our leaders and take the blame upon ourselves individually and pray and seek his face, ask Him to heal our land and repent of our sins.  It is not going to be easy but I am ready to see a land that seeks him and his righteousness willing to forgo the things of this world to be closer to Him.

     
  • oldbaptist 5:48 am on December 30, 2009 Permalink | Reply  

    Age of accountability 

    This article is going to be an opinion piece in the since that I am not using any texts.  Mainly because there are none.  The main stream of religion believes in an age of accountability, but I have not been able to find a single text in the bible that talks about it.  I know that Romans 5:12 says, “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:”.  Personally I believe that means death passed upon the whole human race.  I also believe that includes young children and infants.  Many people have a problem with that because it doesn’t fit there thinking.  Which is that they have the ability to get themselves out of the sinful situation by accepting a sacrifice.  (by the way the sacrifice wasn’t made to them in the first place so how could they accept it)  Anyways, so along the thinking that you have to accept a sacrifice then babies are unable to do that.  So if a young child or baby died without accepting the sacrifice then how could they be saved.  This is where age of accountability comes in.  NO ONE WANTS TO BELIEVE THAT BABIES ARE GOING TO HELL.  So now what are they going to do they came up with this idea of age of accountability.  So if a young child or baby dies then they are considered innocent.  Sounds good doesn’t it.  The only problem with it is it isn’t in the Bible.  Right here is where people normally quit listening and say it’s in there somewhere because some one said it was.  Let me tell you I tried to find it and it isn’t there.

    Okay, I don’t believe that all (if any) babies, young children, deaf, blind, incompetent, or even people that don’t get the opportunity to hear the good news is going to hell.  But I don’t believe the Bible teaches that you have to hear the Gospel in order to make the sacrifice of Jesus effectual either.  I believe we are saved by GRACE.  Even most Baptist today will say salvation is free, not of works, and all you have to do is.  WAIT if all you have to do is _____ then you are saying you have to do something, and you just said it is not of works.  GRACE is doing nothing.  Jesus gave himself a sacrifice for his people’s sins, the sacrifice was made to GOD, God accepted it.  He paid it all, he loved his people to make sure of there salvation.  You can accept that and live a life fulfilling to God and he will bless you, or you can continue to try and work for your salvation.

    One last thing, if anyone wants to give me a chapter and verse on age of accountability please do.

     
  • oldbaptist 6:14 am on December 28, 2007 Permalink | Reply  

    Predestination 

    When it comes to a biblical point, many people have different ideas about predestination.  A simple definition of the word would be, “to predetermine”.  I don’t think there would be many people to argue with that definition.  The word, in any form, is only used 4 times in the Bible.  Romans 8:29,30  Ephesians 1:5,11  In each case it is talking about our eternal salvation.  I’m going to try and explain my views on predestination and contrast it with how the world deals with predestination being in the Bible.

    I will start by saying I don’t believe that any thing I do here on earth is predetermined.  I believe God created me with a will free to do anything I so choose to do.  If I choose to jump off a cliff tomorrow, I have the freedom to do so.  It was not determined by any one except myself that I sit here and write this article.  It is not predetermined that I study or that I pray or that I spend time with my family.  I have the freedom to make those choices by myself.  I also have the freedom to decide if I want to follow the lord or chase sin for the rest of my life.  Everything that I do here on this earth is my choice just as everyone else has the same freedom to make these choices.  On the other hand there are many things that I have no control over.  I did not choose to be Philip Blankenship.  My parents chose that for me.  I didn’t choose who my parents are, I would have to say that God gave me my parents.  I have been blessed to have wonderful parents.  I did not choose to how tall I am, or how I look or what color my hair is or how big my feet are.  All these things are traits that are passed down to me from my parents.  I have no control over that. 

    When the Bible talks about predestination it only speaks of our eternal salvation.  Ephesians 1:5 “Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,”.  You can read the verses surrounding this one if you like.  They are very good as well.  When did he predetermine this, before the beginning of time (verse4).  Who’s will is it that he determines it?  It’s God’s will.  According to the good pleasure of his will.  Most people will take these verses and say he chose his people because he knew who would choose Him.  I have a real problem with that theory.  1 John 4:19,  “19 We love him, because he first loved us.”  If you say that he chose those that He loved based upon who He knew would choose Him then that would be God loving us because we love Him.  Would it not?

    Another thing that I would like to point out is that He did not predestine any to go to hell.  Man going to hell is the work of Adam.  “Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:“  If we were to say that God predetermined that Adam sinned then we would have to say that God caused sin.  I would have to say that would be blaspheme.  God gave man the will to do freely as he willed.  Adam chose sin just as each everyone else does.  Sin sends man to hell. 

    God sent his Son to ransom his people on the cross and to fulfill the promise that he made before the world began and rest assured his promise was fulfilled when Christ died on that old rugged cross.  God did not leave our eternal destiny up to us.  He promised his people a place in Heaven.  Do you believe he fulfilled that promise?  If you believe you are one of God’s elect and you should be thankful and follow after him, worship during your time here on earth.

     
  • oldbaptist 11:57 am on September 15, 2007 Permalink | Reply  

    The Effects of the Gospel 

    What is the gospel?  Why is the gospel preached?  What effect does it have on man?  What are the eternal effects?  What is the effect that it has on our earthly life?  These are some of the questions that I want to think through.  These are things that are very important to me.  The gospel in its definition is good news.  In the New Testament most generally the gospel is the good news of our salvation.  It is telling of what the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ has done for his people.  This is the whole purpose of preaching the gospel, that all that has ears to hear it will know of what the Lord our God has done for them.

    What do I mean by those that has ears to hear it?  Am I saying that deaf people can’t hear the gospel.  Of course not.  I’m saying that only those figuratively that have ears to hear it, will have any joy in it.  Jesus while he was here on earth often times said, “He that hath ears to hear, let them hear.” Matt. 11:15, Matt 13:9, Matt 13:43.  Those people who are dead in tresspasses and sin can not hear the good news of their salvation, because Christ died for a particular people.  No one knows who those people are, except God.  He said that knowing that not all would get the effect of what he was saying.

    If some one bears fruit then he must be a child of God.  All of God’s children will bear fruit, at some point in there life and the gospel is sort of like a fertilizer that helps make the fruit grow.  Kind of like miracle grow.  The fruit is not the cause of some one being a child of God, only proof there of.

    Many would like to say that you must hear, and believe the gospel in order to have eternal salvation.  Let us think about that.  To say that you must believe that Christ died for you in order for him to have died for you.  That doesn’t make any since at all.  To say that you must believe that something happened in order for it to be true is impossible.  If Christ died for your sins then how can you believing it make it a reality.  He either did or he didn’t whether you believe it or not.  Man has walked on the moon.  All I have to prove that, is that man says that they did.  I believe that man walked on the moon and by believing that it becomes exciting and seems like an amazing feet for man.  If I didn’t believe that man walked on the moon it would not change the fact that it happened.  The same is true with our salvation.  Jesus died on the cross for our sins.  He “purged” our sins.  He took our sins away.  He cast them as far as the east is from the west.  The power of our almighty is God is infinately stronger than man could even imagine.  To purge means, “to rid of whatever is impure or undesirable; cleanse; purify. “  God by himself purged our sins.  Whether you want to believe this good news or not does not change the fact that he did it.  If it was necessary to hear and believe the gospel then it limits the work of God to the ability of man.  Only the people that man could get to and persuade to believe would have the opportunity to go to heaven.  My God is a gracious god.  He promised his people a place in heaven before the foundation of the earth and He can not deny himself.

    There is great joy and comfort that comes to me in hearing the good news, knowing that I’m a sinner unable to please my God.  Romans 3:11 says that there are none that seeketh after God.  Without the help of the spirit that is placed in us upon regeneration we have no way of doing any good.  There is none righteous, know not one.  We are all born sinners, we are born of the seed of Adam.  Psalm 51:5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

    I hope these thoughts help to appreciate the things that the Lord our God has done for you.

    Philip

     
    • jde78 10:25 pm on September 17, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Philip
      I like your point about “believing.” It is true that belief does not make something effective or ineffective. It is God’s decision, but all God has chosen will believe. Not that believing makes it effective, but the proof of election is faith, right? And God’s calling is through or by the gospel. 2 Thess. 2:13-14 The encouragement to go on preaching the gospel and personally sharing the gospel to individuals is that there are elect out there who do not know it yet. Thanks for the good thoughts.
      PS I like A. W. Pinks writing as well.
      Josh

    • oldbaptist 3:51 am on September 18, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Josh,
      I appreciate your comment.

      Pertaiing to your statement about God’s calling being through the gospel. I would have to say there is a calling in the gospel, I would call it a gospel call, and there is also an effectual call. If you would notice that this calling in 1Thess. 2:13-14 is a call of people who already believe. “worketh also in you that believe.” This “call” that the gospel has is only effective to those that believe. 2 Tim 1:9 talks of a call that is of God, I would describe it as an effectual call. “Who hath saved us, and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began,” And this calling is “made manfest by the appearing of our Saviour Jesus Christ, who hath abolished death, and hath brought life and immortality to light through the gospel:”

      I don’t know if that is what you trying to say or not, but that is my belief on the gospel call.

      I greatly appreciate your comments.

      Philip

    • David Oates 3:34 am on November 18, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Philip,

      Why when the Philippian jailer asked Paul and Silas what he must do to be saved did Paul not tell him he was already saved? (See Acts 16) What was the answer Paul gave him? “BELIEVE on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be (will be [future tense]) saved, and thy house.” If what you have said is true, then were Paul and Silas being deceitful or were they telling an outright lie? They never, never, never said that he was already saved. They told him he would saved only AFTER he believed – not before. Jesus said in Mark 16:16 after telling the disciples to “preach the gospel to every creature; he that BELIEVETH and is baptized SHALL BE (future tense) SAVED.” How come Jesus did not say a person will believe because they have been saved? I am not aware of any verse that says salvation comes before faith. However, there are numerous examples I can think of that state that faith, or belief, comes before salvation. I would like to know your thoughts on the Philippian jailer and Mark 16:16.

      David

    • oldbaptist 9:55 pm on November 18, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      David,
      These are some of the thoughts that come to my mind when thinking of these particular verses. I will start with the phillipian jailor. This man was about to take his own life as he thought that the prisoners had escaped. If those prisoners would had escaped then the Romans would had tortured this man, and possibly his family as well. When they cried out to him and told him to stop, he said what must I do to be saved. I don’t see how this could possibly be an eternal text. This man was worried about being tortured here on earth and was going to take his life unless there was some other way to be delivered “saved” from the torment he would recieve. They told him to believe in the Lord and he woud be saved. Saved from what the torment. He and his house. Do you believe that the faith of this man would save his family eternally? I would guess you don’t believe that. I would guess that you would believe on the other hand that your faith in Christ would deliever your family from many things in life though. That is my take on that verse.

      As pertaining to Mark 16:16. First I want to go to John 5:24. He that heareth my word and believeth on him that sent me, HATH everlasting life. This verse ,clearly an eternal context, states that if you believe you, hath (already in possetion of) eternal life. I believe that there is salvation in hearing the gospel. Salvation just means deliverance. If you are saved you are delivered. They were told to go and preach the good news of what our saviour had done for those he loved to the gentiles. They could not know of what the lord had done unless some one told them. This what they were commanded to do. Those that are a child of God will rejoice to hear the Gospel. Those that believe the good news will be delivered from there sinful life and have a new master to follow and will know better how to serve their lord. Does it change the fact that the lord died for them if they believe it, No. Christ died to put away the sins of his people so that they could be Holy and without blame before him as he chose them to be before the foundation of the world. The gospel delivers them from some of the sorrows of this world and lets you know how much your saviour loved you that he loved you enough to die for YOU. Not just anybody but for YOU.

      You hath he quickened who were dead in trespasses and in sin. How can a dead man make a choice to become alive? Unless the spirit of God is placed in us we cannot make a choice to follow after him. We died when Adam died in the garden. If you eat of this fruit you shall surely die. We are spiritually dead until that spirit is placed in us.

      I’m sorry for the lenghthy reply but this topic is very near to my heart. I’m very thankful for what the lord has done for me. It brings great joy to my heart to know that God died to take MY sins away. Not just any one but for me. Despite my ugly sins and wrong doings He died for me when I deserve to go to hell and burn for eternity. He cast my sins away never to be remembered again.

      I certainly apprecitate your comments as it causes me to dig deeper and to remember these things that I studied very diligently before I came to understand them.

      May God Bless You in your studies,
      Philip

    • Derrick 11:46 am on August 23, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      Hey guys,
      I just wanted to say that it is not our job to know who are called or chosen by the Most High but He commanded us to go and preach to every creature.
      So i just wanted to encourage you to continue to tell others about our Loving Savior.
      Stay blessed.

      • oldbaptist 5:11 am on December 30, 2009 Permalink | Reply

        Yes but we want to make sure we tell them the truth and not some doctrine made up just to make people rich.

  • oldbaptist 6:01 am on September 6, 2007 Permalink | Reply  

    “KOSMOS” in John 3:16 


    By A.W. Pink

     

    APPENDIX C,
    THE MEANING OF “KOSMOS” IN JOHN 3:16


    It may appear to some of our readers that the exposition we have given of John 3:16 in the chapter on “Difficulties and Objections” is a forced and unnatural one, in as much as our definition of the term “world” seems to be out of harmony with the meaning and scope of this word in other passages, where, to supply the world of believers (God’s elect) as a definition of “world” would make no sense. Many have said to us, “Surely, ‘world’ means world, that is, you, me, and everybody.” In reply we would say: We know from experience how difficult it is to set aside the “traditions of men” and come to a passaGen. which we have heard explained in a certain way scores of times, and study it carefully for ourselves without bias. Nevertheless, this is essential if we would learn the mind of God.

    Many people suppose they already know the simple meaning of John 3:16, and therefore they conclude that no diligent study is required of them to discover the precise teaching of this verse. Needless to say, such an attitude shuts out any further light which they otherwise might obtain on the passage. Yet, if anyone will take a concordance and read carefully the various passages in which the term “world” (as a translation of “kosmos”) occurs, he will quickly perceive that to ascertain the precise meaning of the word “world” in any given passaGen. is not nearly so easy as is popularly supposed. The word “kosmos”, and its English equivalent “world”, is not used with a uniform significance in the New Testament. Very far from it. It is used in quite a number of different ways. Below we will refer to a few passages where this term occurs, suggesting a tentative definition in each case:

    1 “Kosmos” is used of the Universe as a whole: Acts 17:24 —

    “God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth.”

    2 “Kosmos” is used of the earth: John 13:1 Eph 1:4, etc., etc. —

    “When Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world he loved them unto the end.” “Depart out of this world” signifies, leave this earth.

    “According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world.” This expression signifies, before the earth was founded — compare Job 38:4 etc.

    3 “Kosmos” is used of the world system: John 12:31 etc. “Now is the judgment of this world: now shall the Prince of this world be cast out” — compare Matt. 4:8 and 1 John 5:19, R.V.

    4 “Kosmos” is used of the whole human race: Rom. 3:19, etc. —

    “Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.”

    5 “Kosmos” is used of humanity minus believers: John 15:18; Rom. 3:6

    “If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.” Believers do not “hate” Christ, so that “the world” here must signify the world of unbelievers in contrast from believers who love Christ.

    “God forbid: for then how shall God judge the world.” Here is another passaGen. where “the world” cannot mean “you, me, and everybody”, for believers will not be “judged” by God, see John 5:24. So that here, too, it must be the world of unbelievers which is in view.

    6 “Kosmos” is used of Gentiles in contrast from Jews: Rom. 11:12 etc.

    “Now if the fall of them (Israel) be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them (Israel) the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their (Israel’s) fulness.” Note how the first clause in italics is defined by the latter clause placed in italics. Here, again, “the world” cannot signify all humanity for it excludes Israel!

    7 “Kosmos” is used of believers only: John 1:29 3:16,17 6:33 12:47;

    1 Cor. 4:9 2 Cor. 5:19. We leave our readers to turn to these passages, asking them to note, carefully, exactly what is said and predicated of “the world” in each place.

    Thus it will be seen that “kosmos” has at least seven clearly defined different meanings in the New Testament. It may be asked, has then God used a word thus to confuse and confound those who read the Scriptures? We answer, No! nor has he written his Word for lazy people who are too dilatory, or too busy with the things of this world, or, like Martha, so much occupied with “serving”, they have no time and no heart to “search” and “study” Holy Writ! Should it be asked further, But how is a searcher of the Scriptures to know which of the above meanings the term “world” has in any given passage? The answer is: This may be ascertained by a careful study of the context, by diligently noting what is predicated of “the world” in each passage, and by prayerfully consulting other parallel passages to the one being studied.

    The principal subject of John 3:16 is Christ as the Gift of God. The first clause tells us what moved God to “give” his only begotten Son, and that was his great “love”; the second clause informs us for whom God “gave” his Son, and that is for, “whosoever (or, better, `every one’) believeth”; while the last clause makes known why God “gave” his Son (his purpose), and that is, that everyone that believeth “should not perish but have everlasting life.” That “the world” in John 3:16 refers to the world of believers (God’s elect), in contradistinction from “the world of the ungodly” (2Pe 2:5), is established, unequivocally established, by a comparison of the other passages which speak of God’s “love.” “God commendeth his love toward us” — the saints, Rom. 5:8. “Whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth” — every son, Heb 12:6. “We love him, because he first loved us” — believers, 1 John 4:19. The wicked God “pities” (see Mt 18:33). Unto the unthankful and evil God is “kind” (see Luke 6:35). The vessels of wrath he endures “with much longsuffering” (see Rom. 9:22). But “his own” God “loves”!!

     
  • oldbaptist 1:18 am on July 26, 2007 Permalink | Reply  

    Made Perfect Forever 

    I would like to try and look at the first part of Hebrews chapter 10 just a little bit.  Starting in verse 1, it talks about the law service in the old testament and how the sacrifices made were “a shadow of good things to come” and how those sacrifices could never make those who offered them perfect.  Think about that, the sacrifices that they gave were the best of their flock, the best that man had to offer and it had no effect on purging thier sins.  If those sacrifices had any effect on their sins then they would not of had to continue to offer those sacrifices.  Verse 4 goes on to say, “For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins.”  It took a perfect human sacrifice to take away sins.  Man by nature is a sinner.  God gave his Son, a pure and holy sacrifice, for our sins.  That takes love.  I would not give my child for anyones sins I don’t think. 

    We can look at Romans 5:12 to prove that man by nature is a sinner.  Man is born a sinner, that is the fruit that natural man bears, the fruit of a sinner.  Romans 5:12 reads, “Wherefore as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned.”  Because of Adam we are born sinners.  We are not sinners because we sin, we sin because we are sinners.  That is something that is passed down to us from Adam.  That was the choice our earthly father made that has effected his whole family.  We don’t have a choice that we are sinners, that is not to say that we can’t choose not to sin.  Even if we chose never to sin we are still a sinner, and because of that we are bound for hell.

    Verses 6-8 are still talking about the sacrifices under the law but how God was not pleased in them.  There was no pleasure because the sacrifices had no effect on the sin.  It only brought a remembrance of sins to those who made the offering.  It goes on to say that Christ our Saviour came to fulfill the law and that he, not being born of Adam but of God, could live a rightous and perfect life and follow the law to a T.  His body could be offered to take away our sins.  Verse 10, “By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.”  This verse says a lot.  We are made perfect by the offering of Christ’s body for all.  The all under consideration here would have to be found in verse 14 where it says, “For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.”   Them that are sancitfied are them that he made holy through the offering of the body of Christ.

     Verse 14, “For by one offering he hath pefected forever them that are sanctified.”  The sanctified must be the chosen of Christ.  Those that were set apart from the beginning of the world, those that God made a covenant to save.  God promised to save His people from there sins, He sent his Son here to earth to accomplish that and Christ left no stone unturned, he left no loose ends, He cast our sins away, our sins and iniquities He will remember no more.  He got the job done and sat down at the right hand of God.

    Now were there is no sin there is no punishment for sin.  Heaven is our home.

     
    • Tim A. Blankenship 9:25 pm on July 31, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Philip,
      Good article.
      It is great to know that Jesus is the fulfillment of all those sacrifices which did not accomplish our salvation, but Jesus, in one death, paid our sin debt.
      WOW!!!
      DAD.

    • oldbaptist 1:04 pm on August 3, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Thank You. It is hard to imagine that he did that for me.

      Philip

  • oldbaptist 3:16 pm on May 28, 2007 Permalink | Reply  

    What makes a fruit tree a fruit tree? 

         Is an apple tree an apple tree because it bears apples, or does it bear apples because it’s an apple tree?  If you were to say that the bearing of apples is what makes it an apple tree then take an apple tree north and see what happens.  It won’t bear apples.  If an apple tree never in it’s life bears an apple is it still an apple tree?  I would have to say yes, it is.  There is a pear tree that never bears pears.  That doesn’t change the fact that it is a pear tree.

         Now, can anything but an apple tree bear apples?  That’s a no brainer.  Only apple trees can bear apples, just as only a child of God can bear the fruit of the Spirit.  If you are a child of God, you are a child of God, the fruit that you bear doesn’t change what you are, it only justifies that you are.  Why do people want to say that the fruit you bear makes you what bears the fruit.  You must be an apple tree in order to bear apples, just as you must be a child of God in order to bear love, joy, peace, long suffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance, which are the fruit of the Spirit.

         Now some may say that some people bear these fruits that aren’t a child of God, such as Judas for instance.  The only thing I can say about that is, man can be deceitful.  We have an arrangement on our dining room table sometimes.  It looks like it has fruit in it.  That doesn’t make it real.  Just because it looks like fruit doesn’t make it fruit.  Sometimes the only way to tell if it is real is to test it.

       Lastly, I’d like to say, just because a tree isn’t in the right environment to grow doesn’t hinder it’s ability to be tree.  It may not be as strong or as healthy, and it may not bear fruit, but it is still a tree.  The same is true for a child of God.  If a child of God never hears the gospel, he may not grow and learn, or bear much fruit, that doesn’t change the fact that he is a child of God and that God reconciled there sins on the cross.

     Philip

     
    • Tim A. Blankenship 2:19 am on June 3, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Philip,
      You must remember the words of Jesus though, “If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned” (John 15: 6) We are not the tree, and it matters if we abide in the tree, or are just a fruitless limb. If we abide in Him we bring forth much fruit (v.5). When we abide in Him we will bear fruit.
      Just think about it.
      You used a great analogy.

    • oldbaptist 4:19 am on June 3, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Dad,
      What does it take to be a branch? If you are saying that the branch is man and he is cut off for not choosing Christ and cast into Hell, then the branch could never of had life to begin with. If the branch withered then it must of had life. Would you agree? Man in his natural state is spiritually dead. We are made alive when we are quickened. God will lose none of His children, therefore that branch that is burned cannot be talking about Hell. I think that this is talking about a child of God that has chosen not to follow after God and God chastens him and still doesn’t grow and comes to the point where he must be cut off. Whether that is by taking his natural life or putting him out of the church. My point is that if you are a part of the tree then you are a part of the tree. Even if you are cut off you still are a part of the tree, are you not? Earlier in the chapter it talks about pruning the branches so that they might bear fruit. I don’t think God is going to prune anything that doesn’t have the ability to bear.
      I do agree that we should abide in God, we should seek the favor of our Lord. And if we do that we will bear the fruit of the Spirit, but only God’s children has the ability to do so, and all of his children will bear at least some fruit I believe.
      Thank You for your comment, I appreciate you reading it.
      Philip

    • Tim A. Blankenship 10:17 am on June 4, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Philip,
      You may be right about that one. It does say men gathered and burned. I guess that could be like letting the one be tormented by the devil, in his flesh, until he returns and bears fruit.
      There was a man put out of the church in 1 Cor. 5 who was given over to the devil. Could be the same thought.

  • oldbaptist 3:59 am on April 26, 2007 Permalink | Reply  

    Why do men go to Hell? 

    I guess I’m asking a silly question to some.  Lets stop and think about the question though.  Why are men going to Hell?  Some doctrine would seem to point that man goes to hell because he doesn’t do something.  If man doesn’t believe and repent from their sins, then he will go to hell, or believe and be baptized then hell will be your final destination.  I think that all would agree that these things are not what send us to Hell.  It is not what we don’t do that sends us to Hell.  It is clearly what we do do that sends us to Hell.  I think that when we look at it from that perspective we can say that sin sends man to Hell.  God has no tolerance for sin.  Romans 5:12 states that by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for all have sinned.  All man has sinned, even infants, all man because of sin is dead spiritually.

     Now the law was sent to show man there sin.  There was no way for man by the law to be justified with out a sacrifice for sin.  In order to put away sin a perfect man, a man without sin needed to die.  Well all man has sinned it passed down from Adam.  The only way to put away sin was for Christ to die.  He did that on the cross and suffered for our sake.  Now if our sins were not put away on that cross, then Christ suffered for nothing.  My Savior suffered more than any man could ever think about suffering on that day.  My sins and the sins of all Gods people were put away on that day.  They were cast away as far as the east is from the west.  My sins are no more.  God can only tolerate me because my savior paid my debt.

    Now if my sins were done away with upon that cross then tell me what is going to send me to hell?  You must say nothing.  Whether I believe it or not I still have no sin.  There is nothing that can send me to hell if my sins were paid for on that cross.

    Philip

     
  • oldbaptist 3:19 am on April 26, 2007 Permalink | Reply  

    Regeneration is making alive.   It is also referred to as being quickened.   When we are regenerated (Jeremiah 31), we are given “the measure of faith” by God as a declaration of our justification before God, we are made to be able to be aware of spiritual things, we are able to please God, we are made to “know Him” in a spiritual sense, and (very importantly in regard to the utility of the Gospel) we are made to know, understand, and feel sin as the Law of God is written in our hearts.    The Apostle Paul in Romans 7 is a good example.   Before he was born again (to me this is synonymous with regeneration), Paul saw himself as righteous under the law of God.   Then he says, “When the commandment came, sin revived, and I died.”   This commandment was the command to live, or regeneration.   When Paul was regenerated, the Law of God was written in his heart and he saw himself to be a sinner, and justly condemned before God.  In other words, he “found it to be unto death,” even though in reality he was made alive.    We are born again – regenerated only by the Spirit of God.   He speaks life into us.   “So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth, it will not return unto me void, but will accomplish that which I please, and prosper in the thing whereunto I sent it.”    (Forgive my not quoting that passage from Isaiah perfectly.)    This is the same power that said “Let there be Light, and there was light.”  It is this same power that said “Lazarus, come forth!”, and Lazarus was made alive.    God breathes (or speaks) life into us, just as He gave natural life to Adam in the Creation.    We are completely passive in this operation of regeneration.   Man has absolutely nothing to do in the new birth.   It is the effectual working of a Sovereign God.   

    Now, in regard to the Gospel…..

    The Gospel is the Good News of the finished work of Jesus Christ.  It has absolutely no value or effect on a man until AFTER he is born again.   Christ said in John 3 that “except a man be born again, he cannot see thekingdom of God.”   The Scriptures say that “the natural man receiveth not the things of God, neither can he know them, for they are spiritually discerned.”    Also there is a very, very definitive statement in II Tim 1:10, where it says that God “hath brought life and immortality to light through the Gospel.”    Here is a wonderful statement of the utility of the Gospel.    The Gospel NEVER brings life to a person, but it brings that life to light.   There is a profound difference between bringing to life versus making that life known to an individual.A man that is spiritually dead has no ability to receive the Gospel in any fashion.   God must first make him alive before he can even have a heart to be touched by it.   While there have doubtless been occasions where someone has been regenerated while under the sound of the Gospel, the fact that the Gospel was being preached had absolutely no effect upon their regeneration.   Until after they were born again, it was simply foolishness to them.Now, after a person is born again, the Gospel is very important to them, for only in the true Gospel of Jesus Christ can he who has been regenerated and had the law of God written in his heart find any rest, and find any realization of his justification before God.   The Gospel doesn’t make the believer justified before God, it tells the believer that he is justified before God, and therefore provides him justification in the court of his conscience by proclaiming to his lionic accuser that he is clothed with the righteousness of Jesus Christ. 

    By: Adam Green

     
  • oldbaptist 3:11 am on April 17, 2007 Permalink | Reply  

    He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life. 

    Many people in the world say that belief is needed before you can ever be regenerated.  I’m going to try and point out some verses that are clearly contrary to that belief.  Starting with John 3:36.  John 3:36 states that he who believes has eternal life.  Hath is a past tense verb.  Stating that everlasting life is possessed by those who believe.  If this verse was stating that belief was necessary in order to receive eternal life then it would have to say, “will have.”  It doesn’t say that it says, “already has.”  I would like to say that belief and faith is very similar in meaning and most people use them hand in hand as will I.  So I would like to point out that faith is a fruit of the Spirit.  22But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.  So if faith is a fruit of the Spirit, would not you have to have the Spirit in order to bear that fruit.  I have never seen an apple borne without the tree and I’m sure that same principle would have to apply here. 

    Another verse I would like to talk about is John 5:24 which says, “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”  Now again most people would use this verse to say that you must hear the gospel and believe on Jesus in order to have everlasting life.  Well lets look at what this verse does not say.  It doesn’t say, “You must hear my word, and believe on Him that sent Me, to have everlasting life, and to pass from death unto life.”  It is in a completely different tense than that.  The result of the hearing of the word, and believing is once again in past tense.  It is saying that the hearing and belief is a sign that you have everlasting life, not a requirement. 

     Now I believe that all of God’s children will at some point in there life be regenerated by the Holy Spirit and that faith will be placed in there hearts.  The fact that He will do that is not in any way left up to man.  Man’s will, will not get him any where because the natural man can not please God.  If ye have the Spirit of God in you, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit.  The Spirit of God being in us is what gives man the ability to seek after God.  Romans 8:6-9

    So how does man believe, “Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.”  I say once again that faith is a fruit, an affirmative, not something that man must do.  Eternal salvation is the work of Christ, it was finished on the cross of Calvary.  And this is the Father’s will which hath sent me, that of all which he hath given me I should lose nothing, but should raise it up again at the last day.  The death of Christ was sufficient enough to save all that He died for.  He only died for those that the Father gave Him.

     
    • radchel 5:02 am on April 17, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Are you saying that believing in Jesus is not necessary to get to heaven?
      The second part of John 3:36 (KJV) says this: “…and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life.”
      From what I gather, that states pretty clearly that belief is necessary.
      Also, can we even base such an assumption on an English version of the Bible? Would it not take more research into the original languages in order to find out what exactly was being said, rather than just looking at the past tense of “hath”?

      Just a few thoughts on your post.
      Good day,
      Rads

    • oldbaptist 1:58 am on April 18, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      That is exactly what it says. But it does not change that it says that if a man believes he already has everlasting life. How does a man come to believe? Only by the Spirit being placed in him. I believe that all of God’s children will have the Spirit placed in them and have faith of some sort in there savior. But faith does not come by the work of man in any way. It is the work of God. All those that do not believe do not have the Spirit in them, and there is nothing they can do to change that only God can change that. All the Human race after Adam and Eve was born a sinner condemned to Hell. Every man is destined to sin because we are sinners. If the decision was left to man then we would choose Sin. Just as Adam and Eve did. There is nowhere in the Bible that any one begs anyone else to beieve in Christ. Either they do or they go on there way. The Gospel was and is preached to tell people of the good news of what the Savior has done for his people. Read about the goats that he talks about in John. I do believe that all of God’s children will believe, but not of themselves it is the gift of God.

      Philip

    • Mike Ratliff 2:34 am on April 19, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit. John 3:8 ESV

      That is my answer to explaining how a person comes to believe because it is work of the Spirit who we have no control over. :-)

    • oldbaptist 2:45 am on April 19, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Amen!!!

      All that believe, believe because the Spirit was placed in them first. Faith/belief comes immediately there after. I don’t believe that all will hear the gospel though.

      Philip

    • Jones 8:13 pm on October 27, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      I have to differ on your notion that “faith” is a fruit of the spirit. Galatians 5:22 says that “faithfulness” is a fruit of the Spirit and clearly faithfulness is not the same as faith. They are related, but faithfulness is more like trustworthy than “belief” and so no, faith in Christ does not come from just the Spirit.

      That being said, when a person hears the word of God and chooses to accept it, the keyword being “chooses”, then the Spirit will come to him and help his believe and faith. But its a human choice. God created us different from Angels in that we have a choice to sin/live as we please. Angels do not have that choice. Therefore, what you are saying cannot be true because if everyone would eventually automatically have “faith” and then everlasting life… what makes us different from the angels?

      God created man to WILLING Choose and worship him. So man, the sinful creature, when he chooses to believe in his master and creator, the master is more than ready to bring the man into his glory and eternal life. But if the man doesnt want it, why would God force him?? After all, we were created with free will….

    • oldbaptist 4:05 am on November 11, 2007 Permalink | Reply

      Thomas,
      I would first like to apologize for the length of time it has taken me to reply to your comment.
      Even if we took your view on this particular verse, you would still have to say that the other verses used would say that if you believe you already have. “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.” I do believe that we have a free will in this life. I do not believe that I had a choice in whether or not I was created. I was created whether I liked it or not. You could say I was forced to be created. I didn’t choose who my parents are, you could say I was forced to be born of my parents. There are many things that we are “forced” to do. On the other hand since I was born and I do have parents, I choose to love them. I chose to get married and have kids. I choose to worship God. My eternal home was not chosen by me. If it was by my choosing, a work I might add, then I would be damned to hell. There is none righteous no not one. If it was up to our choosing we would do the same as Adam did, he chose wrong. I believe that there is joy in hearing the gospel of our salvation, knowing the work that was done on the cross. Knowing that someone loved me enough to die on that cross and take away my sin’s. I worship him because he first loved me. I didn’t chose him he chose me. I just choose to worship him while I’m he on this sin cursed earth. Read Romans9:11-13. Jacob have I loved Esau have I hated. For the children being not yet born, having done no good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of him that calleth. Choose is a verb, verb is an action, action is a work. To tell me that someone must hear the the good news of their salvation in order for them to have salvation makes no sense at all. Let me tell you what the Lord has done for you, but he only did it if you accept it. He either did it or He didn’t, which is it?
      I greatly appreciate your comments and hope that my explanation is clear. We have good and gracious God. He did what had to be done to save those that He loves. May God bless you!!!

      Philip

    • Nick 12:52 am on May 9, 2008 Permalink | Reply

      Philip i wrote a long thing on why i believe u might be misinformed despite your genuine love for the Lord i can see theres a misunderstanding here so instead of writing a long thing of why your teachings were contrary to the bible ill just throw down some concrete bible verses that show u must accept salvation to be saved.

      the audience hears the news that Jesus Christ is messiah and Lord and they ask Peter “What shall we do”(Acts 2:37) Peter replies with “Repent, and let every one of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins; and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit” (Acts 2:38).

      There we can see it takes action to receive. If someone gives you a gift u must accept it from them or else how is that gift inherited???

      “By faith Noah, being divinely warned of things not yet seen, moved with godly fear, prepared an ark for the saving of his household. . . .” Heb 11:7
      As we can see noah had to take action to save his household from the flood. This verse is mainly to show that God has always demanded that men obey his word to be saved.

      “You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.” (James 2:24).

      Jesus says, “I tell you, no; but unless you repent you will all likewise perish.” (Luke 13:3).

      • oldbaptist 5:18 am on December 30, 2009 Permalink | Reply

        If you accept salvation who does the saving? I believe there is salvation in accepting what the Lord has done for us. But to say to believe something makes it true is contrary to all logic. Jesus died to take away your sins. If you believe that it’s true. Just like saying if you don’t believe something it didn’t happen, just because you didn’t believe it. I don’t believe man eve landed on the moon does that make it untrue no. So why would beleiveing that Jesus did something change the fact of whether he did it or not. All those text you gave are wonderful text taken out of context. They are timely in context and not eternal.

        Thanks for you comment and sorry about the delay in returning. I was without internet for about a year.

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